The Absurd Times Obama Announces Fourth Reich

Posted in Uncategorized by @honestcharlie on September 25, 2013

Obama Announces Fourth Reich

I honestly do not know how to take Obama’s remarks to the General Assembly, so I’ll play a bit first.

See, I did not see his speech nor hear it. I did hear the one from Brazil where she simply tore into the United States for subverting any vestige of democracy through its NSA activity. This was no surprise to any of us, but apparently it was news to her. Anyway, I suspect she knew all along, but Snowden brought it out into the open and that let all hell break loose.

We were so angry at people finding out what they should have known all along that we forced the President of Bolivia to land in Austria while we searched his plane for Snowden. We want to get ahold of him, lock him up, arrest him, and punish him. Things are quite different from the days of the Pentagon Papers and Daniel Ellsberg. Then you had the far left President, Richard M. Nixon’s legal system, so Ellsberg did not go to prison. Today things are different.

Well, apparently, right after that, Obama got up and gave his speech. Now in all the discussion afterwards, never once did I hear any reference to his announcement of a Fourth Reich, or his blunt, open, statement that the U.S. whill do whatever it wants to any country it wants, anytime, if it decides to and that is all there is to it. Fuck your stupid ideas about some sort of United Nations and so-called International Law. International law is what we say it is and screw you if you don’t like it.

No, really, that is pretty much what he said. Jeremy Scahill was able to explain it a bit better and the interview with him is below. There was actually much more leading up to it, but this is too overwhelming to be buried in a maze of print. Here it is:


The Empire President: Jeremy Scahill on Obama’s “Neo-Con” Doctrine of Military Force in U.N. Speech

In an address to the United Nations General Assembly, President Obama openly embraced an aggressive military doctrine backed by previous administrations on using armed force beyond the international norm of self-defense. Obama told the world that the United States is prepared to use its military to defend what he called “our core interests” in the Middle East: U.S. access to oil. “[Obama] basically came out and said the U.S. is an imperialist nation and we’re going to do whatever we need to do to conquer areas [and] take resources from people around the world,” says independent journalist Jeremy Scahill. “It’s a really naked declaration of imperialism … When we look back at Obama’s legacy, this is going to have been a very significant period in U.S. history where the ideals of very radical right-wing forces were solidified. President Obama has been a forceful, fierce defender of empire.”


This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.

AMYGOODMAN: That is the great Somali-Canadian rapper, K’naan. This is Democracy Now!,, The War and Peace Report. I am Amy Goodman with Nermeen Shaikh.

NERMEENSHAIKH: I want to turn back to President Obama’s address at the U.N. General Assembly. During a speech Obama told the world the US is prepared to use its military to defend what he termed “our core interests in the Middle East,” that is US access to oil.

PRESIDENTOBAMA: The United States of America is prepared to use all elements of our power, including military force, to secure our core interests in the region. We will confront external aggression our allies and partners, as we did in the Gulf War. We will ensure the free flow of energy from the region to the world.

NERMEENSHAIKH: That was President Obama speaking yesterday at the U.N. General assembly. Jeremy, your response to what Obama said in his speech.

JEREMYSCAHILL: During this section of the speech my jaw sort of hit the floor. He basically came out and said the United States is an imperialist nation and we are going to do whatever we need to conquer areas to take resources from around the world. I mean, it was a really naked sort of declaration of imperialism, and I don’t use that word lightly, but it really is. I mean, he pushed back against the Russians when he came out and said I believe America is an exceptional nation. He then defended the Gulf War and basically said that the motivation behind it was about oil and said we are going to continue to take such actions in pursuit of securing natural resources for ourselves and our allies. I mean, this was a pretty incredible and bold declaration he was making, especially given the way that he has tried to portray himself around the world. On the other hand, you know, remember what happened right before Obama took the stage is that the president of Brazil got up, and she herself is a former political prisoner who was abused and targeted in a different lifetime, and she gets up and just blasts the United States over the NSA spy program around the world.

AMYGOODMAN: We have President Dilma Rousseff in her address to the U.N. General Assembly.

PRESIDENTDILMAROUSSEFF: We are a democratic country, surrounded by democratic, peaceful countries that respect international law. We have been living in peace with our neighbors for more than 140 years. Like so many other Latin Americans, I, myself, fought on a first-hand basis against arbitrary behavior and censorship, and I could therefore not possibly fail to uncompromisingly defend individuals’ rights to privacy and my country’s sovereignty.

AMYGOODMAN: That is the Brazilian president openly criticizing U.S. spying on her government, the news that just broke from the Edward Snowden releases that was released by Globo Newspaper in Brazil by Glenn Greenwald, U.S. journalist who lives in Brazil. Jeremy, you are headed down there for the opening of your film, “Dirty Wars” this week.

JEREMYSCAHILL: I was there when this story was breaking. It is a major, major scandal in Brazil. It was such a major scandal that the president canceled her state dinner with President Obama. This was not just like sitting in the Oval Office or something. This is a thing where they create a huge menu and they invite all these people and it was meant to sort of secure this relationship of these 2 huge western hemisphere powers. Brazil is a rising power in the western hemisphere and this was to be a very important moment in the history of relations between the U.S. and Brazil and for the Brazilians to cancel it just shows you the severity of this scandal. I mean, all around the world right now in the aftermath of the Wiki leaks, cables being revealed, now you have the Edward Snowden documents. People around the world have access to documentation that in some cases is bolstering what people already thought was going on, but in other cases it is revealing the extent of dirty tricks that the United States is playing on other nations around the world, not to mention its own citizens.

We are at this moment where President Obama appears at the U.N. and only made passing reference really to the NSA scandal. My understanding is that he was in the car when the President of Brazil was speaking and I don’t know if he heard her speech or not. Maybe they already had access to it because they are all up in her e-mails; but at the end of the day you have this democratic president who won the Nobel Peace Prize who then goes and stands in front of the United Nations and basically stakes out a neo-con vision of American foreign policy and owns it and kind of wraps it in this cloak of democratic legitimacy. I think when we look back at Obama’s legacy, this is going to have been a very significant period in U.S. history where the ideals of very sort of radical right wing forces were solidified and continued under Mr. Constitutional Law Professor, Nobel Peace Prize Winner. It is really kind of devastating what is going on right now and I think if you take the long view of it or you step back and look at it and don’t just see the tress but look at the forest, President Obama has been a forceful, fierce defending of empire and I think that is going to be the enduring legacy of his presidency is that he was an empire president.

AMYGOODMAN: We also just had the latest news out of Pakistan of a drone strike. The drone strikes that are continuing?

JEREMYSCAHILL: Both in Yemen and in Pakistan the U.S. is continuing forward with its not so covert war and I think, remember President Obama in May gave this big speech at the National Defense University where he owned the fact that they had killed 4 American citizens and then asserted that the United States is going to continue to do this, this is going to go on and on. This isn’t stopping any time soon.

AMYGOODMAN: Jeremy Scahill, we want to thank you for being with us, National Security Correspondent for The Nation, correspondent also for Democracy Now!, producer and writer of the documentary film “Dirty Wars: The War is a Battlefield” and also the book by the same name. This weekend the films has its South American premiere at the Rio International Film Festival in Brazil where Jeremy Scahill with joint Glenn Greenwald for a discussion afterwards. On October 15 “Dirty Wars” will be released in the United States via Netflix and Itunes as well as on DVD.


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